Philosophy Debate Topics for Students — page 11
1,989 debate topics, students. Debatable motions with arguments for and against. Open the arguments below, pick one at random, or present them full-screen.
- 501.
The ontological argument succeeds in establishing God's existence
For
- OK, so now my opponent's rebuttals are these: 1) My arguments only prove the notion of God 2) The same thing could be applied to the flying spaghetti monster 3) My argument presupposes God First, let me say that if a notion about existence is true, then it follows that it…
- First, sorry for writing "objects" and not "objections." Second, I'd like to thank my opponent for his excellent quick rebuttal. My opponent's two contentions may be summarized as follows: 1. Existence may not be necessary of something that is perfect 2. Only proves IF…
Against
- I am going to agree that IF something is perfect then it actually exists so I can draw attention to what I consider the real substance of the argument. Pro says "The only question is whether this perfection is real or imagined. However, as my argument shows, it is impossible to…
- Seeing that their argument is short and too the point, I will make my objection short and too the point. Pro says. .. . "P1: It is impossible to be perfect and not exist" P1 claims that existence is necessary of something that is perfect. Even if this is granted, this in no way…
- 502.
Morality is subjective and determined by people, not gods
For
- Thanks for your response! I see your argument where you explain the logical fallacy galled tautology. Well, is my explanation a tautology? For the people yes. In my argument I don't claim objective morality so whatever is good to a person, is good to that person. But since I…
- My apologies for leaving the impression that I blamed you for intentionally misleading the debate. I meant to say that that is what your argument seemed to do. I never meant to imply that you were somehow intentionally sabotaging the debate. Lets start by reacting on my…
Against
- I will try to keep my conclusion short, at this point all the arguments are already on the table, discussing them further is unnecessary. I will give some final responses and then summarize my position: Pro seems to change directions in their final entry by writing: "I have no…
- Thanks for the response, this has been a good debate so far. There are some puzzling contradictions in the first part of Pro's latest response. First, Pro says that morality is simply a function of popular majority. The 10,000,000 are right because they're the 10,000,000. Or,…
- 503.
God is a logically necessary being
For
- In my reading of the analytic/synthetic division, I have come to the conclusion that I do not know as much about as I thought. From what I do know about, I reject it's validity on the basis of it's own terms. That being said, I have decided to drop this debate, though I am…
- Thank you for the debate. I look forward to this. I will note that, presuppositionalists mainly deal with the second kind of necessary being as described by Con. This is shown in the transcendental argument for God's existence. Of course, we will speak of a being that must…
Against
- There is no one I respect more than the person who admits they simply don't know as much as they thought.
- Thanks again to pro for an interesting argument and for clarifying the definition of presuppositional apologetics. I am perfectly content to use your definition, as it obviously this does not affect the meaning of the resolution itself. Now, let's take a look at pro's claims.…
- 504.
It is possible to prove God exists
For
- My opponent has forfeited. How sad.
- This is so bizarre; I would have said the exact same thing a week ago.My arguments are simple:1) Gravity certainly exists 100%2) Gravity is illogical3) God can exist 100% certainty1) People do not recognize the world as existing without a god2) The evidence, to them, shows that…
Against
- My argument is fairly short and easy to understand (no, this isn't going to be one of those rounds you have to scroll down for five minutes to read half of what I typed). In order for us to understand God, we must understand that he's a being that transcends our senses. We…
- Pretty simple for my first debate back. I'm not going to be trying too hard so if you want an easy win against me go ahead and accept.The resolution is pretty simple. I'm saying that it's not possible to prove that god (whatever god you want to prove, it's kinda irrelevant to…
- 505.
Everything can be explained without God
For
- "Why did I come here through evolution " Mutations and natural selection. Both of which have been observed in the case of sickle cell anemia. The sickle cell blood cell mutation gave them a survival advantage over those with round-shaped red blood cells because sickle cell…
- "Wikipedia, last visited Jul. 16, 2017." Not the most reliable source "my current life situation" Well you came here by a process called evolution from primates. Basically a common ancestor between us and other primates evolved into different species and we most likely evolved…
Against
- I clarify that the Wikipedia entry I referred to may lack the claim that "[e]very true proposition can be explained, in at least the sense of 'logically deduced,' by the philosophical theory of everything, the set of all and only true propositions." I made the referral because…
- Only God can fully explain everything. But God and the universe seem to be the same thing.Every true proposition materially implies every true proposition. Thus, everything in the universe causes everything in the universe. Every true proposition can be explained, in at least…
- 506.
Atheists can be as moral as believers
For
- Atheist DO have morals.
- It doesn't matter what the morals do to the world it just matters that they are morals. Also secular humanists seem to have pretty good morals and secular humanists are atheists. The truth is, Atheists are atheists because they dont want to follow religious law i.e.…
Against
- Then where do they come from? India?
- Atheists, cant have morals, if they did, they wouldn't be Atheists! Humanists believe HUMANS are the top being, if they are, they cant have morals, because if you had morals you would be able to accept a higher being. I rest my case
- 507.
Skepticism leads to atheism
For
- I thank CON for his reply. CON stated, "Many skeptics examine the evidence for God and become theists." I do not question this, but in the context of this debate, what is of importance is why they became theists. Specifically, if they applied their skepticism to the god claims…
- I hope it will be informative and entertaining, both for the two of us, and also for anyone else who may follow it. Since we are using the definition of atheism as "without belief," we can say two things: 1) atheism is the starting point, because every infant lacks belief at…
Against
- Pro gave some great thoughts and asked some great questions. These would make a great debate or opinion question in their own right. The statement we agreed to debate was It is my position that an application of skepticism necessarily leads to atheism. Con's position will be…
- I look forward to reading your thoughts. Pro states a clear position "It is my position that an application of skepticism necessarily leads to atheism. "My position is this1. Everyone starts off as a natural atheist. Infants do not acknowledge any God.2. Many skeptics examine…
- 508.
The Anselmian ontological argument for God's existence is flawed
For
- Imagine the perfect unicorn. The unicorn exists at least in the understanding, and if it is perfect, then it must exist.The fact that FSM cannot be necessarily true is precisely the point. And your assumption that a FSM without pasta can be considered better shows why you must…
- Despite my inclination towards believing your response and your profile entirely are meant as some form of humor, I will respond. No one is debating that god is not possible. There is no way an atheist can prove god does not exist. However the possibility of something being…
Against
- Unicorns are man made animal. So it cannot necessarily exist since it's a fathom of men. Same with the spaghetti monster. It's man made. So how do we know god is not man made? Simple. We cannot think of something that doesn't exist. We can say "invisible pink unicorn" but pink…
- If god is possible than he exists. As the ontological argument shows. Only works with a being. A FSM is man made with physical features. So he cannot be the greatest maximal thing. As a fsm without pasta can be considered better. So your FSM argument fails as it's not logically…
- 509.
Atheist moral judgments of religion have no valid basis
For
- Thank you for sharing your perspective. I argue against the atheist moral judgment against religion not from a Christian moral superiority standpoint but from one that comes from my own views of the atheist ideology. 1. Many times I find that atheist make claims of a better…
- Atheist should be able to make moral judgments on any religon, No matter how bad, Simply because they have no basis for their morality other than their opinion. Opinions are subjective and as such one atheist can say the Christian God is wrong for doing 'A, B and C' and another…
Against
- Addressing your claims: There is no "atheist ideology" any more than there is one single "christian" perspective on things. That would be similar to me claiming that there is a "theist ideology" when there are in fact thousands of forms of theism. The pure definition of atheist…
- Happy to think with you today. Your argument is that no subjective morality can make judgements on Christian Morality because you claim it is objective. Because multiple differing moral systems are created when no objective morality is known to exist, People with certain…
- 510.
Objective morality requires the existence of God
For
- Thanks to Con for the debate. == Pro Case == Note that Con does not contest my definition of objective morality. (1) The alternatives to physicalism are dualism and idealism, both of which involve the existence of a separate "mental substance" which is distinct from matter.…
- Sorry for the forfeit. I forgot this debate had a 24 hour time limit. == Pro Case == Objective morality is essentially a set of transcendental prescriptive facts regarding the actions of human beings. Just by examining the definition of objective morality, three points in favor…
Against
- 1) No, it does not. Atheism is the lack of a belief in a god and nothing else 2) No, it does not. Moral agents are beings who can reason to morality and thus are held accountable for their actions and deserve ethical treatment. Moral patients are beings who can experience…
- I am still waiting for con to make an argument. Obviously we have now lost a round so if con plans to continue, we can just forgoe the closing statement round.
- 511.
Without God, life has no ultimate objective meaning
For
- My position is that if God does not exist, then human life is devoid of ultimate objective meaning value or purpose, regardless of our subjective opinions to the contrary. Important points to note: 1. I am not stating that all atheists are bland and depressing nihilists who…
- Look at the topic of the debate: it is "if God does not exist life has no ultimate objective purpose value or meaning". Showing that we can live happy and subjectively fulfilled lives, without believing in God, does nothing to show that life has any ultimate objective meaning…
Against
- Ultimately I do agree with you, based on that last argument. Really I don't think this is something that can even be argued about :3 If you ask a Scientologist this question, I'm sure they'd give you a reason why we objectively have purpose, as for an atheist such as myself I…
- As I expressed in the comment section, I am finding it difficult to answer the question, but let me explain why, hopefully in the process of making a good argument. I am going to take the stance that there is a 'meaning' or 'purpose' of sorts, and this is precisely whatever you…
- 512.
Logical absolutes depend on God's existence
For
- I will attempt defend the position that logical absolutes depend on the existence of god. Logical absolutes include- law of noncontradiction, law of identity,the law of excluded middle 1st round will be arguments, 2nd,3rd will also be arguments but in each round the debater…
- Now I will go over some of the problems I have with his rebuttals. My opponent is trying to create a difference in Logical absolutes and doesn't really do a very good job. As even in his case a square circle would not exist. I am not talking about the symbols, even without a…
Against
- AbbreviationsTAG (Pro's argument) - the Transcendental argument for the existence of GodTANG - the Transcendental argument for the non-existence of GodLA - Logical absolutes (laws)TAGP1 - Logical absolutes existP2 - Anything that exists must be physical or conceptualP3 -…
- Unfortunately, Pro has forfeited yet again, despite being active on the site. Thus, we must conclude that given the debate, logical absolutes do not depend upon God.
- 513.
Even religious people take life for granted at times
For
- It's seen in everyday life. Us humans complain. Now,unless someone has no roof over their head, no family, no food, then they are most likely not going to see the importance of what they already have. Maybe for example, a teenager wants to go out with friends and their parents…
- I'm not saying that I don't. when I say everyone I mean myself as well. I have just learned to look at life a little closer, be lucky enough to be debating right now on the computer. be able to go home to a family after school. snack on whatever I want before bed. ok I admit, I…
Against
- My opponent concedes that those born into poverty do not take life for granted and therefore has lost this debate.
- It is now up to you to prove that everyone else also takes life for granted.
- 514.
Science cannot disprove the existence of God
For
- The final round is for the final rebuttal and closing statements. I would also ask the judges to reject, at their discretion, any sources or evidence that CON presents in the final round. Most judges would consider introducing evidence or sources in the final round bad form if…
- Thanks for the round 2 arguments. I"ll provide my rebuttal below. OPENING STATEMENT My argument, outlined in ROUND 2, can be summed as the logical proof: Something that utilizes observation to prove cannot prove something that cannot be observed. This resolution is extremely…
Against
- Dear Pro and All . . . . After several rounds I would like to thank everyone for following this. I would like to also thank anyone that votes. I totally appreciate your time and effort to follow this. As such, I'm going to keep my rebuttal somewhat brief. Also compraing the…
- Dear Pro and audience. Thank you for paying attention through this debate. I know is a length read and very dry. And I would like to assure you that my sons closet monster is not to treat this subject lightly, but to point out comparatively what Pro is defending and saying is…
- 515.
Consequentialism should outweigh deontology in national defense
For
- Lol, I'm glad there is another LD debater here =) I will attack/rebut my opponent's case then move on to crystallize and defend my own. Opponents case Value Structure: Value: Justice --> We both agree on Value Criterion: Kant's Categorical Imperative First off, my opponent says…
- Resolved: Consequentialism should trump deontology in the matter of US national security. Definitions: Consequentilism: an action should be determined by the consequences of an action rather then the immediate action itself. "Ends justify means." Trump: exceed, overcome, take…
Against
- Flow all my points across I guess then. Do we want to redo this debate? 100 character long argument.
- First, value definition debate He defines Justice as "giving each their due." This definition only harms his case, it is a deontological definition: John Rawls, who defined justice in this way was extremely critical of consequential, and based a system of ethics around this…
- 516.
Morality can exist without belief in God
For
- Thank you for addressing all of my points. I. Morality without god can be explained rather simply, actually. How we came into existence has very little impact on how we live today. Because we are social animals, we developed a social structure, which included morality. This…
- I agree with both the definitions and the rules. To answer your questions as briefly as possible: 1) I am agnostic so I make no claims as to whether or not there is a God, but I debate from the position that there is not, as I do not believe in any of the traditionally defined…
Against
- Good answers. That was everything I wanted to know. I. The main point here is that if you do not have an explanation of existence itself, how can you explain morality? Basically you say evolution has developed these moral codes. The problem is evolution is based on chance i.e.…
- Thank you for this exciting challenge. First, I think we should go through a few things. ============ Definitions Morality - conforming to the standard of right conduct (morals) Moral relativism - right or wrong are not absolutes, but can be determined by each individual [1]…
- 517.
Atheism is the most logical worldview
For
- Atheism is logical because it is illogical to believe in the fairy tale story I described before. Religion limits science and progression of knowledge. How can religion be logical if it limits the capabilities of human knowledge?
- Thank you for accepting my challenge, I look forward to a legendary battle of wits ;). The concept of Religion is this- lets worship this god that no one has ever seen, heard, or felt. Lets listen to these men who claim they have heard god. These men say we can only do certain…
Against
- A significant percentage of the religious people believe in messenger of god, someone who 'heard god' . So it is untrue that they believe in the concept of religion, which according to the pro is - 'no one has ever heard god'. Science tells us that certain things can only be…
- Challenge accepted.
- 518.
Ontological arguments justify belief in God
For
- I don't particularily mind Con's extremely short responses, however, the effort each side puts into their posts will have a say when it comes down to it.To start, I will continue my deconstruction of the Negative case by further addressing Con's one and only argument. I might…
- Thank you to Con for making an effort to participate in this debate.Going straight to defending the argumetns, I would first like to note that Con gave 1 argument against ontological arguments and it didn't refute Godels proof. Before I address that, we must first see why Con's…
Against
- I see here that Pro ignored my main argument, that quality and quantity suffer the same problem. Pro states I committed the either/or fallacy. However you can see I didn't offer 2 solutions, but 3. I said the standard of great can be subjective. This is pretty much what Pro…
- Pro gives a definition of great which is 'markedly superior in character or quality'. Pro doesn't answer my argument, but only pushes the question up. I understand we must compare something with other things to be considered great. I'm asking, whose comparison are we going by?…
- 519.
Atheism is an untenable position
For
- (A.1)My opponent suggests that "everyone is born an theist". He needs to define atheism if he wishes to be clear on this statement, and show as to how this is so. However, my opponent has made no arguments or responses to my first affirmative. My argument still stands and I…
- (A) Understanding What I Mean by the Resolution While I am not concerned withdefinitionsfor atheism here (see 1.1), I think a passing comment on the clarity of my positionin regards to atheismbeing an"untenable position"are in order. By 'untenable', I merely mean to say that…
Against
- I take the most difficult position to defend: that of Hard Atheism as defined by Wikipedia. There is not god, absolutely and categorically. Everyone is born with no concept of gods. A desire for gods, yes, as evidenced by the many tribal religions. This can be attributed to the…
- Everyone is born an atheist.
- 520.
The fine-tuning argument for God's existence is sound
For
- The debate hinges on Con's misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the original argument of fine-tuning. And he seems to be unwilling to accept that blatant error. As he assumes:When I say all/any, I mean everything that falls under a certain category. In this instance the…
- Since the debate has gone tiresome and repetitive, I will try to be as concise. By the way to clarify I didn't imply any ad hominem on Con, those words such as new-atheists and teenage are not meant to represent for him but as I mentioned I consider him to be mature and…
Against
- Pro and I can at least agree that this debate is tiresome and repetitive. If Pro wants to attempt a compliment, then in future perhaps it would be better if he presented it so it didn't appear to be a back handed one.Anyway, my argument is not that all souls require a…
- Working through Pro's argument from the top, I have formulated the following:Misrepresentation - I haven't alleged Pro of misconduct, only suggested that it would have perhaps been better for him to be specific about what he means by life from the start. Pro didn't clarify what…
- 521.
The conflict between science and religion is really about worldviews
For
- Isn't posting my argument.
- Let me begin with addressing natural selection and then I will attempt to address the transitional forms you mentioned in this Round. Let's listen in on a hypothetical conversation between a biblical creationist (C) and an evolutionist (E) as they discuss some recent scientific…
Against
- "Could this process cause the increase in genetic information necessary for. . . . Evolution? " Yes. Let's examine a few types of genetic mutations shall we? Missense mutation; the substitution of one amino acid for another, Doesn't create nor destroy information. But what…
- "Natural selection cannot produce design. " You are assuming the presence of design in the first place, Design being the very thing that's under dispute. You are begging the question. "Abiogenesis is used. How did life come about for evolution, Except by abiogenesis. "…
- 522.
Atheism has no merit just because it is fashionable
For
- Thanks to my opponent for the challenge.Atheism has become fashionable lately in the u.s and british media with Richard Dawkins and comedians like Ricky Gervais and Bill Maher.Im all for free speech but some things bother me about these commentators,specifically... 1When these…
Against
- I wonder who won...
- La da de dum! Arguments extended (obviously) to this round.
- 523.
One should be an atheist rather than an agnostic
For
- Unfortunately my opponent has forfeited her round. You know who to vote for.
- >>>It is not a third way - it is congenial with atheism and theism. <<< I intend to argue against those who individualize themselves against atheism and theism. =====Counterarguments===== >>>Recognizing the absence of absolute knowledge is recognizing humanity's flaws and the…
Against
- Sorry about the last round. I actually haven't been able to get on for a while. I took on this debate intending to finish, but I've been in the middle of a family crisis as of two days ago. Therefore, I forfeit this round as well. Sorry about this - I really just don't have the…
- It will be fun to take a little break from my current debate (which has continued in the comments section, thankfully - it's an important issue to me and I like fighting for it). ==ATHEISM & AGNOSTICISM== My opponent has provided some basic definitions of both atheism and…
- 524.
Agnosticism is a better position than atheism
For
- Agnosticism is neither a religion nor a race. Atheists simply put their trust in science? Here is an example: the downgrading of Pluto as a mere member of the Kuiper belt faced opposition and a new term dwarf planet was invented. Those who couldn't embrace a simple change of…
- You are kind of coming close to the core of the issue. In your own words: "Atheism is based on a common belief..." but Theism is also based on some kinds of "beliefs". Atheism is no more, but to criticize some "some beliefs" based on "some other beliefs". Taking stances is only…
Against
- Atheism and Agnosticism are so similar as neither truly believes in God. Because Atheists believe that science and speaking out is more important than claiming that some commands written 10,000 years ago instead, meaning there is no difference or significant difference between…
- Because Agnosticism has that one basic belief and never mentions anything related to its beliefs on anything else, not all Atheists are like you described however, Agnosticism is flexible yes, because they engineered their beliefs so that they cannot be wrong on anything so…
- 525.
Perfect divine foreknowledge is logically impossible
For
- Structure: In the comments.RebuttalsScriptureThat something appears in writing is not a testament to its logical cohesiveness. What the Bible says is irrelevant.Self-RestrictionIn several of his points, Con raises an interesting question: Can an omnipotent being restrict…
- According to the structure laid out in R1, Con should have presented his opening arguments in R2. He has deviated from this structure, but, in this instance, I would ask voters to forgive him that oversight. I am willing to roll with it. Rebuttals 1. Omnipotence1a. Free WillBy…
Against
- Rebuttals Scripture It has some relevance, this debate is about any God with (that have the listed abilities), not a specific god from my understanding. So we have to take into consideration Gods that have the ability where nothing is impossible with them. There are no…
- Dialogue on Debate Structure I thought Iwas . Take the heading "contradictions" for example, in it I disputed that contradictions were possible. As I said "For your arguments to work "logically" you would have to prove that a God can't create a contradiction though his…
- 526.
Belief that a known god does not exist is logically defensible
For
- LAWRENCE KRAUSS, DIRECTOR OF THE ORIGINS PROJECT AT ASU IN ARIZONA In the first places, current physical theories suggest that our universe is probably not unique. Well beyond our ability to directly probe, there may be an infinity of universes, with differing laws of physics,…
- "The definitions of my words are seen in the words themselves. They are defined in action thru example :)" Round 1 Examples: I know of Santa. I know of many things from books. As a matter of fact, without books or any kind of writings, we would have no understanding of a god.…
Against
- I have made all the points that I want to make. All hail Lawrence Krauss.I thank my opponent for an interesting and informative debate. Let the voting commence.
- It has been a pleasure debating him :)My opponent's quotes are in bold. "'There seems to be a cut off, but it is clearly inferred that the first definition stands'. That is awesome, its like the inferred assumption that there is a divine creator that is in control of the…
- 527.
Agnostics are really atheists
For
- Extend my arguments.
- I appreciate his responses and rebuttals…"Agnostics to not have such a faith such willingness to answer in the affirmative or the negative they simply concede that their is no way of knowing whether a god exists. "The common misperception is that if one does not know, then…
Against
- Thank you for starting this debate An agnostic is person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god , and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, one who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God or one who is skeptical…
- 528.
The modal ontological argument for God's existence is logically valid
For
- This is going to be short and sweet.A famous "proof" that 1 equals 2 This has nothing to do with the ontological argument, so my opponent wasted his time with this. Now..."According to that argument, god exists in all possible worlds. But "all possible worlds" includes many…
- Addressing My Opponent's Arguments "A maximally great being is a being with all of what we would call great making properties. That's completely arbitrary and undefined."Here is the definition of great:great/grāt/ Adjective: Of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above…
Against
- Thanks to Pro for this debate, and this topic. And thanks to any readers and voters for their comments and illumination. God Does Not Exist in All Possible Worlds. We know he doesn't. We know it because of the definition of "possible world. " A possible world is one without…
- A famous "proof" that 1 equals 2 goes like this: Let a=b. Then a^2 = ab, a^2 + a^2 = a^2 + ab, 2 a^2 = a^2 + ab, 2 a^2 - 2 ab = a^2 + ab - 2 ab, and 2 a^2 - 2 ab = a^2 - ab. This can be written as 2 (a^2 - a b) = 1 (a^2 - a b), and cancelling the (a^2 - ab) from both sides…
- 529.
Subjective morality proves God exists
For
- Someone wrote: "I agree with statement 1 trough 8 in the first proof" "I do not agree with statement 4 in the first proof" Your mere agreement or disagreement with any particular statement does not have any effect on the truth of that statement. "It should not really come as a…
- 1. Formation of subjective opinions requires non-fabricated data about the Actual Thing in Question (ATQ). (Any opinions formed independent of non-fabricated data about the ATQ would necessarily be about some other thing, and not about the ATQ). 2. Non-fabricated data about the…
Against
- Thank you Purushadasa for the quick response!My opponent wrote "Your mere agreement or disagreement with any particular statement does not have any effect on the truth of that statement." I agree with that completely, which is why I supplied argumentation next to my statement…
- Thank you Purushadasa for setting up this debate.I agree with statement 1 trough 8 in the first proof if(!) "Moral Ideals" are defined as something like "a moral principle or value that one actively pursues as a goal,". Which means that certain moral ideals are conflicting…
- 530.
The omnipotence paradox is a flawed argument against God
For
- Can God be Measured by Logic? It depends on how we define omnipotence. Since the stone paradox implied the use of maximal omnipotence, then it is therefore logical that we use maximal omnipotence when referring to the stone paradox. By definition of maximal omnipotence, God can…
- My opponent conceded and dropped a pretty large crux of my argument including my entire argument regarding common omnipotence, and chose to attack certain increments of my argument. Misunderstandings "God an do the illogical, but by doing so, has shown that he has limits.…
Against
- here are some final arguments i made in comments, well before pro posted. i can respect if he wants to abide by formality, but he should have responded to it if he could, but explicitly chose not to. ---------------- here is something i will add in the last round. i'd like to…
- pro argues that we cant measure God against logic if he is able to act against logic. perhaps in some sense. but we have no other way to measure him. and, if we do use logic, we see that whether he makes the rock, or doesn't shows that he is not omnipotent one way or the other.…
- 531.
God is a logically coherent concept
For
- Thank you. Now for the last round. My opponent continues to talk about the form of my argument. For example: "If you have an argument with propositions and a conclusion. Then if any one proposition is wrong then the whole argument is invalid. In fact as the following source…
- The process of this debate will not go very smoothly if Con and I are presumably arguing about the logic in the concept of "nothingness," if I understood my opponent's entire argument correctly. He says that I must provide my evidence that something can't come from nothing and…
Against
- Thanks to my opponent for the debate, please realize what follows is not a personal attack. However, I am at a loss how to explain why I reject your hypothesis. My opponent either refuses to accept the logic that I have presented, or I have used to difficult examples. So lets…
- Thanks to my opponent, this round I will keep brief and to the point. In fact I will not be replying to most of the contentions as you seem to be adamant about logic I thought why not debate logic. Logic If you have an argument with propositions and a conclusion. Then if any…
- 532.
Omniscient, omnipotent gods are incompatible with free will
For
- If God is all powerful, and all knowing then he can never be faced with a dilemma. With his foreknowledge he can never be faced with a surprise. Everything that happens could only happen with his approval. This implies that you could never do anything against God's will because…
- Present your antithesis
Against
- I would like to completely support the opposing position of this debate: God can give you free will,
- Accordingly, Because God is the most high, and his judgments are to not be contradicted, but instead acknowledged, in the state of mind that, If God is the God we are talking about, his judgments are the manifestation of wisdom itself. -God can give freewill to anyone, even if…
- 533.
Atheism provides a more rational and realistic worldview than theism
For
- I thank Con for the rational perspective presented in his rebuttal. However, his evidence does not stand up to scrutiny as I will explain on a case by case basis. Con: I will be defending the Christian religion... Con slickly avoids the ad populum fallacy by using the word…
- The burden of proof is on Con to show that God is likely to exist; I will refute his evidence and arguments once they are posted. The most prominent reason for my disbelief in a God is that there is no compelling evidence for one. The following arguments will elucidate why the…
Against
- I will be defending the Christian religion. I will instantly make the argument that because Christianity is the religion with the most followers, it is most likely to be the true religion, as if God does exist, surely His religion would involve the most people. My opponent…
- Good luck, and let us begin.
- 534.
A god cannot be omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient
For
- The Con says that belief in God is not out of desperation as people have many reasons for believing in god. This is not true, and the best way to demonstrate this is by showing how belief in god has changed as our knowledge has changed. So first we gave Gods names and…
- I'm glad that this debate has attracted interest. I wish to first state my basic argument, then address the flaws in my opposition's. Evil. There is no denying that it is in abundance. Thousands of innocent people being blown limb from limb in conflicts they didn't start;…
Against
- Pro commits the genetic fallacy again, saying we only believe raping a baby is wrong because evolution programmed us this way. Maybe he only believes in atheism for similar reasons. Maybe it was his upbringing, or he was brainwashed by biased websites, or a woman left him so he…
- Pro claims the idea of God comes from human desperation. This is a clear case of the genetic fallacy " the idea that you can prove a belief is false by invalidating how people came to believe it. This is like saying, "oh, you only believe atheism because you got hurt so you…
- 535.
Science and religion are compatible
For
- Which has benefited mankind more? Religion or science? Many would agree that science has due to the fact that religion has spawned wars and disagreements across the globe when we can all agree on science because it is a common ground for curiosity among everyone. But...where…
- As you are already well aware, science is needed for progress. It is proven in economics as much as it is for anything else. Religion is like this in a way. Human progression is spurred by a purpose; a common purpose that people drive towards for the same reason. Sure science…
Against
- Definitions: Science - a system that builds and organizes knowledge concerned with the physical world in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe http://www.merriam-webster.com... http://dictionary.reference.com... http://en.wikipedia.org... Religion…
- I would first like to apologize to my opponent and the voters for missing a round. My opponent skipped his round as well, so I will progress to his Round 2 argument. Definitions: faith - complete confidence or trust in something(1) belief - an acceptance that something is true…
- 536.
A limitless god is logically impossible
For
- I would like to point out that the contender, yet again, regards to definitions in the epistemic sense; and not the metaphysical sense. Regarding 2) In his reply, the contender claims that God is defined in the bible, and brings up a number of examples to back his claims.…
- Because his attempted refutation regards the steps one by one, I will present my counter-rebuttal in the same manner. Regarding 1) In his rebuttal, the contender mentions that the god of the bible must have to be more than just a notion, i. e. exists objectively; and because we…
Against
- I would like to point out that the contender, yet again, regards to definitions in the epistemic sense; and not the metaphysical sense.<< But you have not explained why the definitions we use must be in the metaphysical sense or what you are qualified to make such a judgment.…
- "First let me say I do not accept your definitions, especially since you have not provided a source for them nor have you presented any qualifications that that I should consider you more knowledgeable on this subject than I am. Regarding 2) >>In his rebuttal (it isn't entirely…
- 537.
Atheism is a form of stubborn agnosticism
For
- I believe that individual who subscribe themselves to the principles of Atheism are in actuality, Unwitting Agnostics. Everyone believes in a power greater than themselves, Even if it's not a deity or some anthropomorphic entity. I, Like many atheists, Enjoy the logical debates…
- Atheism: a disbelief in a god, Or entities that exhibit god-like qualities Agnosticism: view that the existence of a higher power is unknown/unknowable. Neither embracing or discounting this belief Stubborn: an individual who is determined not to change their position in spite…
Against
- Okay
- "I believe that individual who subscribe themselves to the principles of Atheism are in actuality, Unwitting Agnostics. "The problem is that it is more rational position to disbelieve than to believe that something is true before it is. Take the theist example. Most assumed…
- 538.
God is present everywhere
For
- I will conclude this debate by thanking, The Russian, for his participation. I am not promoting God or asking anyone to agree with me. If I were to be truthful, I feel that The Russian's last submission was just 'more of the same. Let me show you why I say this.Free Will is for…
- The Russian states 'An atheist is one who claims that there is no God.''Hi The Russian and thanks again for your participation. Here is what Wik states'Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is the rejection…
Against
- I don't think I have much more to say. ". .. gardeners see God, climbers see God, soldiers see God. .. " But I don't. I was hoping for a more logic based argument, but indeed I think my opponent's arguments can essentially be boiled down to: 1) People have always believed 2)…
- "The Russian's proposal that God belief was established as a form of delusional 'comforting' is a very weak argument." My opponent calls my argument weak, but I didn't really see any effective counters to it. He says that modern religions are clearly wrong, and I'm not…
- 539.
Logic suggests a creative, conscious God may exist
For
- My opponent continues to stubbornly state the same thing over, like a boy with a toy hammer that thinks if he whacks something hard enough it'll eventually impale. Sadly for him that's not the way logic and critical evaluation work!My opponent: "Since these two propositions are…
- My opponent is frustrated and claims I'm being intellectually dishonest and unethical. However, I want to demonstrate that it is he who is being intellectually dishonest. He claims that I would be arguing the Transcendental Argument for the existence of God (TAG) in this…
Against
- IntroductionPro keeps on mentioning how Ryan Stringer's argument does not apply to all conceptions of God. The debate outline never specified that that my arguments had to fall in line with any type of God thinkable. That would clearly be unreasonable. Pro's only criteria was…
- IntroductionFirst of all, my opponent is committing the fallacy of equivocation with regards to TAG. There are different versions of TAG, the one my opponent was claiming he was going to defend deals with just logic, and not morals or science[1]. Thus, there is no Christian…
- 540.
God has free will
For
- No round as agreed.
- Apparenty my opponent could not refute my arguments and chose to ignore my case.However, I will say again that God's omnipotence allows his power to surpass human logic. Remember, I didn't define God as omnipotent, you did. Therefore, anything is possible with God, even making…
Against
- +++++++++++++++++ Conclusion: +++++++++++++++++ 1. Obviously, in this debate, Pro did not refute whatever I say in the previous round. Pro is going with his own definition of God that is Omnipotence. He says that an Omnipotence being can do anything yes I must admit that. But…
- Pro is debating a Truism Truism: http://uofadebate.files.wordpress.com... Now look at my case. We shall ignore his case. 1. We are arguing that this debate to show that God has free will while being Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnibenevolent. My opponent is trying to change…
- 541.
War does more good than harm
For
- "Pro is conceding that war erases personality," No, it does not erase personality. In fact, war is a chance for personality to shine. Only in war can the bravest show their bravery. Only in war can the greatest generals prove themselves and have their name written down in…
- "Well, if he read my point more carefully, he would have noticed that I spurned this sort of numbers evaluation from the outset." I read your point very carefully, but in this case, the "personality" of a person is irrelevant. In war, as cruel as it may sound, a person is a…
Against
- One last hearty thanks to my opponent. Let's start by clarifying Pro's burdens one last time. He has to prove two things: 1) War produces causally linked benefits that outweigh its harms in a substantial majority of instances, and 2) Those benefits are superior to what could be…
- Thanks to my opponent, and let's get started. 1) Loss of life. "...in this case, the 'personality' of a person is irrelevant. In war, as cruel as it may sound, a person is a resource, and all people are equal before the "eyes" of war." Voters, this is the concession of the…
- 542.
Pascal's Wager does not justify belief in God
For
- Thank you for your arguments. In this round, I will rebut your case.=================================================================================A summary of my opponent's 1st argument here:I honestly did not get the point of my opponent's first argument. If I understand it…
- I'm glad to see that he is interested in this topic very much. I'm not sure if what my opponent presented in the first round was simply an analysis, or actual arguments. But as stated in my opening round, round 2 Is the round for arguments so I believe it is most likely just…
Against
- Thanks to the KingDebater369 for bringing up this interesting topic in the Philosophy of Religion. It was a good exchange and I learned quite a bit in the process and trust that he had a similar experience. Thanks also to those who make a pit-stop here and check out the…
- KingDebater369, thanks for the interaction on Pascal's wager. It is a privilege to stand in the shadows of giants like Blaise Pascal who was a brilliant mathematician, inventor, and after whom we have named the computer programming language, PASCAL, Pascal's Triangle, and…
- 543.
Science, not religion, is the best path to truth
For
- big bang theory noun Astronomy. a theory that deduces a cataclysmic birth of the universe (big bang) from the observed expansion of the universe, cosmic background radiation, abundance of the elements, and the laws of physics. Also called big-bang model. Compare steady state…
- For a simple start, allow me to clear some massive misconceptions you have. First, you seem to think the Big Bang was the combustion of life in early-Earth conditions. No, this is not so. The Big Bang is the common name for the beginning of the known Universe, not life. Also,…
Against
- The Big Bang Theory: such a controversy! (Half sarcasm half real.) Well, when I was talking of the Miller-Urey Experiment, my ONLY point and goal was to get across that, what we call "mainstream" science, isn't always the most reliable. The Big Bang is unrelated to this, yes. I…
- The Big Bang is thought of, by most atheists, as a combustion of the Universe. But it is also considered to be what started all forms of matter and life--even though that really makes no logical sense even when just saying it here! So I am not wrong when talking about the Big…
- 544.
Atheism is a more rational starting point than theism in theological debates
For
- The title of this argument isn't meant to be condescending, just to find the most rational starting point in a debate. If the debate is "is there a god" or "is god good for the world" if you are coming into the argument with a belief in a god then you are already biased. You…
- When approaching a religious debate, coming in at an atheistic viewpoint is more rational/logical then if you were coming into it a theist.
Against
- I hope Pro takes my advice in playing the Deist card during her next "theological debate," and see the difference it makes in constructively embracing the scientific method, in reading the handwriting of God. Then, and only then, may harmony reach its climax for both atheist…
- I'll try to address your concerns. Pro stated, "If the debate is "is there a god" or "is god good for the world" if you are coming into the argument with a belief in a god then you are already biased. " Debates starting out with a topic "is there a god" are simply dead-end…
- 545.
A good God cannot have created evil
For
- god created the holy tree.. and the devil so everyone went to hell without choice before the bible was written? i dont see a god to love anywhere you can assume anything
- ye
Against
- As there was no format described in Pro's round 1, I will go ahead with my opening:God did not create Evil, nor did he create Death. The Devil created death and evil by fooling Eve into eating the fruit of good and evil. God first worked to create a lasting nation of himself…
- Not necessarily. God did not create the Devil, but he created the Angel Lucifer. Lucifer then rebelled against God. Now Lucifer is stuck in Hell, and attempting to tempt others to turn against God. Nowhere in the Bible has it described God as one of Hatred. He is one of…
- 546.
Morality is grounded in God
For
- My opponent has the final word in this debate so I will prepare a hard blow to my opponent in my last round. Yes, It is still in debate today but I would argue that it is more probable than improbable that humans have souls. Fine I will assume that souls exist. All I will say…
- Sorry for the late response I went to bed. It is not a fact to you as you may not be familiar with the case for the soul so I will be willing to educate you. I did say that for the purposes of this debate we will assume that Humans have souls. I am making sure that the voters…
Against
- 1. "It is not a fact to you as you may not be familiar with the case for the soul so I will be willing to educate you. I did say that for the purposes of this debate we will assume that Humans have souls. " == The topic of whether souls exist is still in debate today. It is not…
- Sorry for the uncharacteristically late resp. Because I have stuff going on. 1. "If my opponent would like to discuss the arguments for the existence of the soul then we shall do that in another debate" === if we have to debate it, It is NOT FACT. And thus "women have souls" is…
- 547.
Arguments for the existence of God are valid
For
- I submitted my second round right before bed, and when I woke up this morning I got an email saying it's my turn to debate. TheSkeptic is either quite the night owl or quite the early bird. Either way, his quick reply is much appreciated. ==================== TAG - Existence of…
- Let me just say, TheSkeptic is a worthy opponent. Not only did he bring his "A" game, he clearly understands the nature of TAG, something many of my previous opponents have failed to grasp. This debate is certainly going to be engaging. I will defer to my opponent's structure…
Against
- My opponent's reply is equally as quick! It's been a pleasure debating with you KRF, hopefully we can do it more at some other time. ==================== TAG - Existence of Logical Absolutes ==================== My opponent attempts to escape the fallacy of division by simply…
- Not only does he respond in quick fashion, but his arguments certainly hold weight. It's great to debate an opponent who doesn't resort to simply reiterating opposing claims. ==================== TAG - Existence of Logical Absolutes ==================== >>>"Being immutable,…
- 548.
The universe can answer whether God exists
For
- The universe is the mind of God.
- I respect my opponent's acknowledgment. I've invested a lot of time into my work. I also respect his precocious ability. The "evidence" is as follows. That which is immaterial is abstract, and abstraction is a mental process that "abstracts" or educes general relationships from…
Against
- I accept and await my opponent's opening statements. Looking forward to it.
- "God is the principle of symmetry, and symmetry is defined as two mirror images." This is my opponent's view of God, and he is perfectly entitled to hold that view. Although I personally don't believe in a creator, God is a word that means different things to different people…
- 549.
Religion should be rejected on logical grounds
For
- Cameron presented only the Kalam Cosmological Argument. However, this greatly falls short. All the Kalam argument does is show that the universe has a cause. The universe having a cause is a far cry from showing that religion is logical, or should be accepted. My opponent then…
- Thank you for defining some words. I'll define some more. Justifiable - Able to be shown to be right. So for something to be logical, it must be "able to be shown to be right by reason." That means for any religion to be logical, the religion must be "able to be shown to be…
Against
- Rebuttal:I found it quite ironic my opponent agreed that the universe has a cause! As defined by Oxford Dictionaries a cause is a person or thing that gives rise to an action, phenomenon, or condition. He has just agreed that something created us!I am assuming my opponent…
- I would first like to address the fact that my opponent stated that religion is "faith-based". I would first like to define faith. Faith is a "strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof." My opponent says that in…
- 550.
The reverse modal ontological argument refutes God's existence
For
- Thanks Pro.PrefaceI hoped to keep this debate relatively quick and concise, thankfully Pro has obliged with his previous round. I request Pro make a full rebuttal next round, otherwise this debate can be reinstated. In any case thanks for the debate and best of luck in the…
- Thanks Con.I tried to keep it below 1,000 words, but failed… Voters - I beg of your forgivness.RebuttalsPremise 1No rebuttal is given for this premise. Note that the definition of God within this debate is not a "maximally great being", thus his arguments are so far red…
Against
- Unfortunately I did not get off work early enough to write a full rebuttal.I'll just clarify that my position is, If God is defined as necessarily necessary then a world is only possible if it has all the necessary entities.My second contention is that even if there are worlds…
- Thank you Envisage for the challenge. Instead of refuting the summary Envisage offered I will address the extended form of his argument. R1. Premise 1 In the Modal argument for God, the definition of God is "Maximally Great Being" (MGB). Because of the property "Maximally…
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